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Seagate 3TB Expansion Desktop $99 (Was $159) at PB Tech ($33/TB)

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Cheapest storage available in NZ. Works out at $33 per TB.

I have purchased these before to "Shuck" for the 3TB drive inside. They have a Seagate ST3000DM007 drive inside which is >$138 on pricespy.

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  • Yes these are good for shluckies however doing this voids the warranty and CGA.

    • +1

      I agree, however testing can be done on the drive before disassembly. The point I was making was I have determined the model of drive inside :)

      That was just my personal use case as I determined If they weren't DOA then it outweighed the cost of buying the internal drive, especially if buying a large quantity for a NAS etc.

      • Oh, might I add, these drives have been on 24/7 in a "NAS" used to record surveillance cameras since 2017 with no problems at all :)

      • I agree. If you buy four (say), it would cost $400 vs $540 (ish), so you are effectively achieving 'buy three get one free'. You can test them inside the enclosure upon receipt, and if they are good, they are likely to be good for a few years at least (no guarantees of course - literally if you shuck the drive).

        If one does die, you are still evens anyway (so a bit like getting a free replacement drive if one fails, but getting a discount if it doesn't).

        You are taking the risk that more than one dies though, and it has been known that a bad batch makes it through QC.

        Alan.

      • What program you using for testing?

      • Nas drives also have specialized firmware (at least claimed by manufacturers)

    • Are you able to provide a source for voiding CGA.

      Removing a sticker doesn't magically remove all of your rights as a consumer. If they can show that you opened it and that caused the damage then sure.

      In the states the stickers mean nothing.

      • You are correct, the warranty sticker is meaningless under the CGA as it is purely for the manufacturers warranty.
        That being said, the goods may be rejected if the goods were modified in a way that was not intended by the manufacturer, in this case gutting the hard drive putting it in another enclosure.

        The Consumer Protection site run by the Ministry states:

        "misused or altered a product in any way that caused the problem, eg not following manufacturer’s instructions for use" https://www.consumerprotection.govt.nz/general-help/consumer…

        Whether gutting the drive constitutes the above will need to be tested in front of the law, however by the wording it does seem that it will forfeit the cover. I would cite the actual legislation but the secondary source above seems trustworthy as its run by the Ministry.

        • If you can get it open without marking the enclosure or having to modify it then I would say you can put it back in if you have an issue and take it back.
          I'm unsure what modifications you would ever have to do to the hard drive to put it in another system.
          I also would argue that formatting or partitioning the hard drive is not modifying it outside of normal operation.

          • @Foodie: Whilst I agree that it should be that way, I would guess that you might be buying yourself a fight and, at the very least, a fair degree of uncertainty.

            It could all come down to the store (policy) and in many cases the specific person you end up dealing with in terms of how easy it might be to get a replacement.

            Interesting to know if there has ever been a (public) test case.

            I totally agree that formatting and / or partitioning should never be an issue - that is completely normal use of any drive.

            Alan.

            • @Alan6984: I know it would all depend on what actually went wrong with the drive, I doubt removing it from the enclosure would cause the drive not to spin unless you are mucking around with the HDD torque screws or bending connector pins. In that case they would be able to test for that when sent for repair. If you are doing stuff like that then I would expect you know what you are getting yourself in for.

              For JMAC's example, if you took out the drive to see the model number, then put the enclosure back together without breaking anything that effects the drive or connectors itself and it then died three months later, I would argue opening the enclosure didn't impact the drive at all.

              Slightly different, but I've been able to return headphones (in ear and over ear) where they have been very uncomfortable (so unusable for myself) even though it was policy not to return due to hygiene (same sort of thing with returning undies)
              I quoted the claim of "Comfortableness" from the manufactures website.

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