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Panasonic HZ1000 65" OLED TV $2849 + $89 Shipping (with Coupon) @ TheMarket

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Panasonic HZ1000 65" OLED TV $2849 + $89 Shipping (with Coupon) @ TheMarket
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snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 12:38 themarket.com (544 clicks)
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This is an amazing deal for a 4K 65" OLED TV. The HZ1000 is the 2020 model which they've been trying to clear out and is a fantastic television (I now own 2, a 55" for the bedroom and a 65" for the Lounge).

Price is $2999 + 5% off with XMAS Coupon making it $2849! This is the lowest price I've seen and I've been watching it for quite a long time. It appears there isn't much stock left based on the Noel Leeming website, so get a great deal if you're in the market for an OLED!

Only downsides: It is not VRR (Variable refresh rate) or 120Hz if you care about that for gaming, and doesn't have HDMI 2.1 if you care about that (which is mostly just used for VRR and 120Hz).

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  • brownie1 on 05/12/2021 - 14:16
    +1

    Highly recommend Panasonic OLEDs for movies. If you can get past the stand design, this is the best deal lowest priced ever seen. Also, IMHO Panasonic UI is not the best compared to the competition but this can be fixed by Apple TV or Nvidia Shield which will make the UI way better (read powerful and intuitive) than any other TV's built in ones.

    • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 14:29

      I agree, the stand is pretty boring but I bought a nice glass stand from the market for $50 and it looks much nicer now. You're right about the UI too, it's not the best and a streaming box will always offer a much nicer experience. You could probably buy this tv and 2x apple tvs and it would still be well under the cost of any other 65" oled model!

  • Kanwaldeep on 05/12/2021 - 14:32

    How does it compare to the Sony x90j which is $2600?

    • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 14:38
      +1

      X90j is a fundamentally different tv technology. OLED TVs are the kings of contrast due to every pixel emitting its own light, whereas the x90j is a regular LCD with an LED array backlight, which helps improve contrast but is still nowhere near as good. The one benefit is the x90j will likely get a bit brighter overall if you're in a very bright room, but that's it's only benefit. For this price the Panasonic is the clear winner. If you look up reviews of them both on rtings and look at the local dimming videos you'll see the Sony will have white ghosting around white objects as the LEDs aren't as finelt controlled compare to the oled.

      • SrsSarcasM on 06/12/2021 - 12:56

        You seem really knowledgeable on the subject, I've got an old 55" Sony LCD. In our lounge there's loads of sun (no direct sunlight but more Ambient light) and the screen is hard to see during the day.

        Old LEDs were generally considered to be worse than LCDs in terms of visibility during the day, although I know that varies from model to model.

        Does OLED combat the room brightness issue or is this still prevalent?

        • snowflake on 06/12/2021 - 14:14
          +1

          Thank you (Although hopefully not sarcasm as your username implies ;) ). I've spent the last few months looking at TVs before buying two of these so I gained a lot of knowledge.

          Older LCDs certainly could be very bad. Especially if it's non-LED. Ultimately it will come down to a few things: Panel type (LCD has many different kinds of panels, IPS, VA, etc), backlight type (Old LCDs used fluorescent lights, so weren't as bright and took time to reach their full brightness. Also tends to get dimmer with time I believe, and reflection handling.

          The biggest gripe many have with OLEDs is that they tend to be less bright than other panel technologies. This really depends on the room, as for me personally I don't have much issue with this. But for those that do there's two options: get a higher end OLED that can reach higher brightnesses (e.g. the HZ2000 / JZ2000) but these are much more expensive, or get a different TV type.

          The best TV equivalent to an OLED right now is the Samsung QN90A from 2020 or the QN95A from 2021. These use MiniLED backlights so they have fine-tuned control over local dimming to get a similar (but not quite as good) effect as OLED, but because it has an LCD (or in this case QLED) panel with this backlight it can get much brighter so is usually recommended for those who want high quality + brightness. There may be some others, I know Sony makes some great TVs, but the Samsung is the one I"m most familiar with. However sadly you won't get a deal quite as good as this on one of those panels.

          • Jaxson on 06/12/2021 - 15:29

            @snowflake: In a previous life I would have been all about performance in a dark room for movies et cetera, but I am hanging out for a quality traditional LED that suits lounge use during the day as well, and ideally with wider viewing angles and low reflections as well.

            • snowflake on 06/12/2021 - 15:32

              @Jaxson: In that case I'd definitely recommend the QN90A or QN65A. Mini LED (or in this case "Quantum LED") is truly the best you're going to get. THey're incredible TVs and have won top recommendations from pretty much any reviewer I've read.

              • Kanwaldeep on 07/12/2021 - 17:55

                @snowflake: The problem with the QN90A is that the panels here I'm pretty sure are mostly ADS(IPS). The sony x90j is cheaper than the Samsung and looks better because it has a VA panel.

                • snowflake on 07/12/2021 - 18:11

                  @Kanwaldeep: That is certainly very reductionist, and doesn't keep up with all the other things that have been changed in these panels since the inception of IPS and VA panels. Historically, VA panels could look nicer as they had deeper blacks and greater contrast, though usually with reduced viewing angles. The Samsung panel has an additional layer to increase contrast and viewing angles and has much greater colour production and accuracy. The absolute biggest difference is in the local dimming. The Sony has local dimming, but the zones are much larger and less refined, so there is a huge while glow around any white object on a black background. The Samsung has much much smaller and more finely controlled mini LEDs (quantum mini LEDs as Samsung markets them), which gets much closer to OLED level of granularity, as well as overall getting brighter than the X90J. This again makes the contrast even better again. If you watch and compare the "local dimming" videos of the two, you'll see how much better the samsung panel is. The samsung panel is also just unanimously recommended over the Sony. https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/samsung-qn90a-qled-v…

                  However, in NZ at the moment the X90j is much cheaper than the QN90A. So basically, the X90J is a decent TV, but no where near as good as the OLED listed here for the price (which is where the discussion started from). The QN90A is an incredible TV, the closest thing you'll get to an OLED without any risk of burn in or struggling in brighter rooms, but comes at a higher cost than the Sony TV, but around the same cost as new OLEDs.

                  • Kanwaldeep on 09/12/2021 - 13:44

                    @snowflake: the qn90a with a 'VA' panel is 100% better but most panels in New Zealand are ADS(similar to IPS) they compared the qn90a with a VA panel against the sony x90j with a VA panel so technically it's almost a totally different product.

      • SrsSarcasM on 06/12/2021 - 13:33

        Also per https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/panasonic-hz1000-tx-6…

        Where the size doesn’t do the picture quality as many favours is the upscaling, at least for HD broadcast TV. It’s still a very good performance but it lacks sharpness. It makes up for it with colours that are bold in description, well-conveyed skin tones and what noise there is barely registers.

        Most content would be upscaled to 4k so this concerns me somewhat!

  • Kanwaldeep on 05/12/2021 - 14:33

    How bad is burn-in on this model?

    • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 14:40

      Burn in isn't really an issue on modern OLEDs unless you for some reason leave something static on the screen for a long time which you shouldnt be doing anyway with normal use. The only issue may be if you watch long hours of tv with a static watermark, but this is usually much less common now. It has features to negate this and undergoes an automatic process every time the tv is turned off after its been on for more than 4 hours too to Help reduce any risk.

      • ABCDEFG on 05/12/2021 - 19:14

        The first thing that comes to mind is hours of gaming with a static health-bar graphic in one corner. This would be a pretty common occurrence of that exact scenario, no?

        • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 19:37
          +1

          That is a possibility, though the tests from Rtings (which have now been running for over 5 years), have shown that it typically takes quite a long time for burn in to occur with static content, and is mostly an issue when it's very bright (i.e. white) static content. Game HUDS aren't often super bright whites, so that should help a bit, and the TVs do have an inbuilt function to detect anything bright and static and dim it to reduce the likelihood of burnin. With regular use, it's not really an issue for 90% of users, but if you have very specific use cases that do have bright static content, like watching CNN 24 hours a day, or playing video games with bright huds a lot rather than typical use of movies and netflix etc, then yes it's something you should worry more about and should probably consider a mini LED tv for the closest alternative without any possible burn-in issues. The TV can also remove burn in through it's refresher programs, but these of course reduce the TV's brightness over time by essentially "evening out" the burn in, rather than magically removing it.
          Basically, burn in is definitely something to be conscious of, but for the most part often isn't quite as big of an issue as people make it out to be under most circumstances.

          • ABCDEFG on 05/12/2021 - 20:12

            @snowflake: Thanks for this reply, you really thoroughly answered my question.

        • Jaqqour on 06/12/2021 - 15:14

          Even top tier models get burn in, sometimes within a year. There are heaps of videos on youtube where people have swapped to a OLED (LG C1) and experienced burn in. They look nice sure, but if you are going to have static hud elements (or windows task bar etc) on that screen whenever you are using it then be cautious. The amount you pay for these TV's you want them to last a while, unless money isnt an issue XD

      • Kanwaldeep on 06/12/2021 - 13:49

        Does this have a letterbox burn-in?

    • brownie1 on 05/12/2021 - 15:41
      +1

      Burn in issue is basically the same for all OLEDs. You can't just use OLED tvs like regular tvs. You can't keep the screen constant, you have to always be conscious about it. It's the price you pay for that sweet sweet blacks you get.. Different make and models have different strategies to try and minimize it but all in all most panels have similar amounts of risk. I have walked into Noel Leeming, Jbhifi etc and at numerous times played the "RGB test" video on YouTube and showed the sales person that their demo tv is so fudged from burn in. I've done this to all makes. Look into a projector or non OLED tv if you don't want any burn in risk :)

  • Rakka on 05/12/2021 - 14:42
    +1

    That's an amazing deal period. I've been keeping track of OLED prices for the 65" in for years. That's the sort of price you pay on TM second hand.

    It's pretty much a no regrets purchase with an Nvidia shield or Apple TV.

    • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 14:47
      +1

      Absolutely! I'm gutted I bought the 65" 3 days ago for $300 more, and then they go ahead and reduce it even more! Nonetheless I thought I would post it so others can hopefully score an amazing deal while they can.

      • Banto on 05/12/2021 - 20:02

        I feel for you while looking at my 4.5k$ LED TV I bought about 3-4 years ago.

  • Makmak on 05/12/2021 - 14:51
    +1

    I have the 2019 model and it's still going strong. It did have an issue with burn in. Don't leave the TV running on a still screen whilst the sun is shining on it. However, this was fixed by doing a maintenance routine through the settings

    The TV itself is extremely heavy. Make sure you have something sufficient to hold it's weight

    The OS of the TV is terrible. Run a Shield or Google TV.

  • Mustapha Jaffery on 05/12/2021 - 17:40
    +1

    Get sony flagship led x95j or get a80j oled from Sony 2021 model around similar prices if you can be patient and wait till boxing day and if you care about picture quality, motion hdmi 2.1 for gaming.

    • Jaxson on 05/12/2021 - 23:12
      +2

      I’m pretty much thinking along same lines.

      Not keen on needing to run an external box just to get a decent UI

    • Kanwaldeep on 06/12/2021 - 17:36

      How much do you reckon a80j or c1 75" will be around boxing day? I'm pretty new to this tv space and don't really know much about how their prices change.

      • Mustapha Jaffery on 06/12/2021 - 17:43

        At least 3500 for sony in 65 inches c1 comes in 77inches that should come to 5500 at least but you will benefit from a sony oled a80j if picture quality is your main concern.

        • snowflake on 06/12/2021 - 21:56

          I will point out, this is a complete guess and shouldn't be taken as gospel. The 65" A80J has never been lower than $3788, and boxing day sales haven't been particularly amazing for a long time. They're just another typical sale in NZ. Sometimes there's some good deals, but certainly not something I'd count on. I don't think you're going to see a quality 65" OLED sub $3000 for a fair while. The A80J is a great TV, but to be honest any OLED is going to be a huge upgrade for anyone coming from a non-OLED (Unless you have an incredibly high end non-oled TV anyway).

  • BabySeaClown on 05/12/2021 - 18:40

    I have the FZ (2018) model and no issues at all with burn in. Just use it sensibly and there isn’t much risk.

    As previously stated, the UI on Panasonics is terrible, but easily alleviated with an ATV or shield (which I would be using on most flagship TVs anyway)

    OLED is worlds above anything else for most content. I’ve not once been disappointed with the brightness, or for that matter, any aspect of my TV. Slight judder on motion but this has apparently been greatly improved on the more recent models.

    I’m in a funny position where I’m almost wanting my TV to fail because the new additions are greatly appreciated - Dolby vision support being the big one, and HDMI 2.1 / VRR on the most recent models. But cannot justify spending to get what is actually inevitably going to be a relatively minor upgrade.

  • CheapThingsAreNice on 05/12/2021 - 19:35
    +3

    I like to chime in on these posts because hey, i sell TVs for a living

    hz1000 and hz2000 are bloody goood TVs ; they're not particularly good as smart tv's, but honestly i'd rather run an apple TV or chromecast TV into them and mitigate the issue entirely

    This is really cheap too, this is staff buying demo stock cheap. The oled here is an LG made panel, the obvious benefits to oled being the great deep blacks and really vibrant colours (especially here)…

    What dont you get?

    No HDMI 2.1, so no 4k 120fps VRR for your xbox or ps5; you get 4k 60 as the max i/o (but what few games will be 120 anyway?), The stand is a little cheap for the price, it's solid but doesnt scream value… Panasonics software is painful and the remote is cheap shit..

    It's still night and day, especially considering the same money in samsung gets you an edgelit qled that's just on a different level to the TV entirely.

    • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 19:39

      I will note, the remote that I got, while still not particularly amazing, is still much nicer than my older mushy panasonics! (The OLED one is a nice silver one with much clicker buttons without mushiness which is nice). But I don't use it for anything other than adjusting display settings anyway fortunately.

      Definitely an amazing deal and a fantastic TV though. Genuinely a crazy price for an OLED. Not so long ago they were basically unobtainable for most people unless you have the $$$ to drop 5k+ on a TV.

      • CheapThingsAreNice on 05/12/2021 - 19:40

        Do they offer the metal plated remote with the panas now?

        • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 20:46

          Appears so. My HZ1000 came with one anyway (I have a second HZ1000 on the way, so we'll see if it's 2 for 2). It's lightyears better than the old standard mushy garbage :D

    • fsmith on 05/12/2021 - 20:01

      nvidia shield i highly recomend when you need LOSSLESS audio support for your disk remux rips

      • Saint on 05/12/2021 - 20:38

        Can i stream files from my pc to nvidia shield? I.e VLC player etc etc

        • fsmith on 05/12/2021 - 21:54

          i use plex for that purpose.

          • Saint on 05/12/2021 - 22:00

            @fsmith: So will plex directly cast to Shield in lossless quality? (ethernet)
            Lets say if i play high bitrate hdr 10bit files.

            • fsmith on 06/12/2021 - 08:54

              @Saint: I do that all the time. So yes

    • Saint on 05/12/2021 - 22:01

      What is the difference between hz 1000 and 2000? also the jz versions?

      • snowflake on 05/12/2021 - 22:34
        +1

        Hz2000 is the more premium version (top of the line I believe) of Panasonic's 2020 OLED range. It had a different panel with custom cooling that allowed it to achieve even greater brightness. Personally I already find the HZ1000 amazing so I can only imagine the 2000 is even better.

        The JZ series is the 2021 variations. The model numbers are similar so the JZ1000 Is the 2021 equivalent with new features like VRR, 120hz, and HDMI 2.1 amongst other things (I'm not 100% certain on all the new features). There also a JZ980 which is their cheapest 2021 oled which has some cost cutting measures over the other panels. You can look into that If you want specific details. The jz980 is still around $3500 minimum, but does have VRR and 120hz I believe. However personally I think this deal is the best for most people unless they really want those gamer specific features.

  • cheeseballz on 05/12/2021 - 22:27

    Dang should have waited to get this over the 55 C1!

  • kiwical on 06/12/2021 - 22:33

    As much as I would love it I think my lounge would only realistically fit a 55.
    Do you think $2500 for the 55 HZ1000 is a good price or should that reduce more yet as well?
    Not offered on market but other retailers have that deal going.

    • snowflake on 06/12/2021 - 22:40
      +1

      I bought the 55" for $2500 and then it became $2300 the next day and I was very annoyed. Then I bought the 65" for $3300 and it became $3000 the next day. The only scientific conclusion I can come to is that the price is reduced solely because I have purchased it. I can do you a favour and purchase another 55" so that the price reduces again so you can purchase it :D
      But in all seriousness, I'd be completely guessing. Could it go a bit cheaper? Sure. Will stock run out very soon? Absolutely. It's an old 2020 model that they want to get rid of, so stock is generally pretty low. I doubt it would go any cheaper than $2300 again, and even so, $2500 for an OLED is still a great deal. (Although personally, i'd still just get the 65" for $250 more anyway. the 55" feels small to be now with such tiny bezels, and the fact that because OLED tvs create pure black, movies in letterbox format make the TV feel smaller since it's like the rest of the TV isn't even there).

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