Hey Team
Just wondering what your thoughts on are in relation to the above? (New TV)
I am REALLY tempted to the Samsung S95B.. but not sure I can justify $3300 on a TV ><
Any thoughts would be great (Especially with the deals on at the moment)
For reference, we currently have a 65" Warehouse JVC one.
Cheers!
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I haven't seen one in person but the Metz oled sounds like great value for their size to price, as long as you don't want fancy things like gaming features.
Mini led is another option, I think 65 inch for that price will be hard to find something great. I can vouch for the TCL c835 but inky the 55 is under $2000.
A colleague just picked up this which they're very happy with: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7h
https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/tv-and-audio/televisions/qled…
Important to note that these two TVs are not necessarily the same, Hisense has been using similar/ the same model numbers in Oz and here for TVs with different specs to the northern hemisphere market.
Really? Has this been documented anywhere?
It's mentioned in the rtings review you linked (in the 'Cons' list in the 'Our Verdict' section) and it's been discussed previously here and on ozbargains. It might well be exactly the same TV as the rtings-reviewed model, but I'd recommend potential buyers compare published spec sheets to confirm.
There are some discounts at Costco if you are in Auckland.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/481939876141404/permalink/92…
So… We all get it. The s95b is a great TV, but he's already told you that the s95b is out the question. So why are you going on about it?
He's specifically asked for recommendations around $2000, not $3000.
Saying that the recommendations here are 'trash' is a trash mindset. Some have given options at the low end, myself at the more expensive end of $2000 (along with the rtings data and personal experience), but they're all reasonable suggestions.
Try chilling out a little bit.
Sounds a bit like what I'd expect from a Noel Leeming / Harvey Norman salesperson. (Been there, done that).
I noticed that, in person, s95b isn't as black as a c2. It could have been that my experience with the product was in a very well lit space.
I think some of the TV's linked are great. For $1k that JVC is pretty damned good, id whack a chrome cast tv into it for the sake of speed, but a 4k edge lit panel at 50hz is more than enough for 80% of people.
If you go and spend <$2k at a Noel Leeming or a Harvey's you'll, imo, get a worse product than what you might get buying a lower-end brand. The reason is that a lot of TCL, Panasonic TV's, Hisense etc are just the same panels with different speakers / Software etc.
Do you need dual tuner OP? Play games? What are you upgrading from?
TCL offer a 3 year warranty, of course we have cga, but it can make things a little easier.
I mean look at the recommendations when I posted, he wants a 65" and people are linking a 75" or a metz oled they've never seen in person or random JVC crap that is without a doubt not a very good tv.
He asked specifically for 65" around 2k and no options were provided at all. I asked for more details to provide a good recommendation but also stated the s95b is the best incase he's able to either stretch the budget or consider waiting till april/may and potentially getting it cheaper when the new model comes out since he specially stated he was very tempted by it.
The s95b looks grey in a light room - you only get the deep blacks on a dark room due to a layer added on the tv. That's why it's important to know how you'll be using the tv.
At $2k price range, if you're a movie buff the x90k 65" would be your best bet, but it's slightly over budget, but with the right market discount it'll be close. Downside is lack of gaming features.
If you're a gamer, LG is the best but nanocells suck and you only really want an oled from their range. Secondly if you're a big gamer, id save and get an oled since they're future proof compared to other TVs that won't have full hdmi 2.1 or vrr features.
Iike I said, provide some more details and id be happy to short list options within the budget or slightly over if you're willing.
Hey mate
More of a PC gamer so not that fussed re gaming. Might do the occasional gaming on it, but it will be more just with the kids etc.
Most of the use for the TV would be watching Shows/Films/Sports etc :)
It is in a relatively bright room. (Well guess your normal lounge)
@moxpearl: Probably better with the x90k if you can stretch the budget a bit for it. It’s a good improvement over the x85k with the local dimming feature that Sony implements pretty well, plus you get their image processing which is the best for movies. It only has two hdmi 2.1 ports but if you’re not an avid gamer that should be all good.
An Oled will be pretty bad in a bright room as they have poor reflection handling. The expedition is the s95b/a95k/g2 which can get bright enough to fight it, but if any windows are directly opposite or shine light on an Oled it’s pretty hard to watch during the day.
Let me know if you don’t want to stretch the budget that much and I can short list some other options, but I highly recommend getting something that is fit for purpose and future proof so you don’t get fomo or feel the need to upgrade in a year or two unnecessarily.
@Telemachus: Hey, so basically qled/nanocell/random fancy sounding term that is used a lot by TV companies is a marketing gimmick. All these tvs are still LCD/LED tvs with the only difference being certain layers or filters added which impact brightness/color performance etc. There is a bit more to it, but this is a simplistic explanation.
For bright room watching you want a TV that can get bright enough to fight reflections from light on the screen. This is where a LCD/LED will generally beat an OLED as most of them can’t get bright enough to fight reflections properly. I’ve also heard that burn in is more likely with direct light which is another issue.
Other considerations for a bright room will also be viewing angles which differs based on the panel type - VA or IPS
@Vish: Thanks for that, went and had a look today at a few.
My favorites around the $2000 mark were…
Sony X90K (Around $2200-$2300 with the price match)
Panasonic TH-65 LX900Z (Around $2200) - Not much online about this one.
It's a bit shit knowing how much they go for in Aussie >< (Can get the X90K for around $1400)
The LG QNED MiniLED looked the best, but was around the $2900 mark :( (And less than $2000 in Aussie ><)
Would also note that there did not seem to be that many great deals at the moment, eg can get the same price on most shit when there is a 10% market coupon etc.
@moxpearl: Annoyingly since Panasonic isn't sold in the states a lot of reviewers completely skip their products (which is fair), but they actually make some great TV's. In saying that, I'd probably still get the Sony over the Panasonic, but that's my bias on owning many Sony TV's in the past, The LG QNED always looks great in the shops because it's so bright, real world viewing in your home will be different as it's a cheaper implementation of MiniLED so it does fall short in certain aspects (compared to the QN90B).
Definitely agree that it's annoying that the Aussie prices are so much lower! But there isn't any way to get those prices as you can't easily import a TV and the fees will add up if you did, so I wouldn't get hung up on that.
Hard to say when the next big discount period would be, but the market seems to issue 10% coupons during holidays, so you could check the forum history for when the next 10% coupon was available looking at last year around this time as it'll probably be the same again.
@moxpearl: Careful about seeing TVs in person, I've heard about the staff in shops setting the TVs that yields lower commission "look"" not as good as TVs with higher commissions, not sure how true it is…
@aih-lun: Hi. I worked for noel leeming.
If this is true it's the brand doing it not the staff. All of the TV's showing a demo reel (not a movie or the noel leeming ads for example) are set automatically and reset about 5 minutes after you play with them.
The demos really do show the strengths of each more than the flaws.
… Specifically Sony kinda downsell themselves from x85k to x80k because of how poor their full array lighting looks on the Tokyo (? Can't remember) night scape reel… The dimmer and cheaper tv actually looks better.
The simple truth is, yeah more expensive ones do pay more.
The way their stores are fitted is pretty obvious to the keen public. You walk around the brand stand going down in price until the customer is okay with the price / picture mix. It's not actually a bad way to do it and you can see the difference stuff like qled and full array make.
And honestly they all look about the same. It's the darks that sell swanky tvs now, not the brightness so that would be difficult to pull off
The suggestion I made is under $2k and 65 inch, a post prior to your comment.
The 65in x90k is around $2.5k. For a saving of roughly $700 and a rating as good as (and in a lot of important cases better) than the x90k, I'd personally prefer the u7h.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-x90k-vs-hisense…
@Latex Fist: A recommendation of “my colleague got it and is happy” isn’t really a good recommendation. You’ve provided no details on how/why they’re happy or what their criteria in buying this tv was.the Hisense can’t do 4K 120hz which would be an instant deal breaker if OP was a gamer, and would have been a fair initial assumption given he was looking at the s95b and has a 2k budget.
The x95k is roughly 2.5k and with 10% off the market and getting Sony to price match for free shipping you’re looking at $2,250 all in. No coupon right now but Costco has it $2,300 which Sony will price match per the comment below and include free delivery most of the time.
You now say it’s better in many criteria, but which ones? Did you ask which criteria OP was particularly interested in? No you didn’t. You made an anecdotal asspull of a recommendation without any consideration for his needs other than budget and your colleague ‘liking it’.
I agree the UH7 is comparable to the x90k, but the main issue with the UH7 lies with its viewing angles which are horrendous. Unless you’re looking at it straight on (and that would imply a living room with one lazy boy directly in-front of the tv), its not really fit for multi viewing.
The UI of the UH7 is also slow, but you can overcome that with an external streamer like Apple TV or firestick, but that offsets your savings to the x90k which doesn’t need those devices.
And also like i said, no 4K 120hz is a big let down. Obviously right now 4K 120hz is niche, but it’ll be more popular in a few years time no doubt and why not pay a little extra for a feature that will 100% give you fomo and want to upgrade in a year or so when it’s more popular.
@Vish: Also rtings is good, but they’re not the gospel and they are subject to bias. Look at their s95b review, they reviewed it with older firmware that was bugged and had the brightness dialed much higher than intended which Samsung subsequently fixed and said was an error, but they have not updated or made reference to this in their review. They crown the s95b over the a95k for this reason while every other credible tv reviewer has commented on this, stated the a95k is better but can’t justify the price increment.
There are way more resources out there to get a better comparison.
@Vish: Listen, I don't know how but I think we've struck a nerve with you. There are certainly ways of communicating, and if you calm down, I'm certainly open to it. But using phrases such as 'anecdotal asspull' is a bit over the top, as with the whole 'no options were provided at all'.
I recommended her the TV as I've been looking in the same price range and have seen it in shop, comparing it to many others including that of the Sony range. For the price point in comparison to other tv's, it's a good value. A positive review from a person that I know is a good review - I don't understand how that wouldn't be. Surely but that theory no positive review is appropriate ever? Regardless, the assumptions that you're saying I should have made, are a bit over the top.
But just relax man, he's only asked for suggestions as to what to have a look at. He'd still have a look at each in person before buying, and not buy one sight unseen because 'some dude on the interweb told me to buy it'.
I haven't researched this TV, but I think an lg oled should be good
https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/lg-oled55cs-4k-2022-smart-te…
Well he is after 65" so I don't think this LG counts, but it's a nice tv on it's own.
Whoops my mistake sorry, I did search 65, in my haste I didn't double check when clicking the link. Thanks for that
Look, I'm no TV expert but we have a Sony and it's amazing. We have the X90K and it was a shock to the system when we first turned it on after so many years with old tech.
I've narrowed down the 65s on the Sony website for you. Most of them are within your price range although the X90 is a bit over 2k. But Costco is selling the X90K for $2299 and Sony does price match.
They price match it too if you find it cheaper somewhere else.
You can find some YouTube reviews on these models if you're that way inclined.
I'm sorry if this wasn't helpful as the others, but absolutely agree that if you're going to be investing money, then you want to be happy with your choice. 👍🏼
I researched for a friend a while ago and I suggested the sony x90k, full array, so will be a great picture.
In the end he got an oled on clearance for just a little more
Having had a Samsung 65 qled smart tv for about three years. I recommend the visual quality, but not the software. Since it runs tizen and not android , there a lot fewer apps, so I have to run a small computer to watch other services.
This here is a good deal and JVC seem to last 5+ years JVC 65 inch 4K Ultra HD QLED Google Smart TV $949.00
https://www.warehousestationery.co.nz/product/W2837226.html#…
We own the 55inch JVC and have had that for atleast 5 years and still works perfectly the audio is so much better compared to the Veon tvs and picture quality is really good.
or if you want a bigger tv for under 2k is go thi 1: JVC 75 inch 4K Ultra HD QLED Google Smart TV $1,399.00
https://www.warehousestationery.co.nz/product/W2837298.html#…