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jamesdeal on 07/01/2023 - 16:37
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https://www.jbhifi.co.nz/computers-tablets/software/norton/n…
$20 cash back means you can cash up your voucher?
The vast majority of people have good enough protection built into windows 10 or 11 and mobile does not need it. We are not in the 2000's where downloading random files was as much of an issue.
If a product is ~ free you are the product, always best to read the product terms about what data may be shared and then resold by norton. They also make it tough to remove their software now so they are banking on taking advantage of vulnerable people who don't know how to remove it and will renew it each year.
Thanks for the comments Dunno. the cashback is a good way to cash up a Jb voucher without needing to pick up or pay extra for delivery. I guess if one feels there is no need for the product then register/ install the product in an old phone and make sure annual subscription is turned off and claim cash back and don't use the product.
It would be good if anyone can reference any review (independent/robust) literature to say windows have good enough production. I agree with apple products and software is generally more secured, and probably don't need formal internet security. but I am not sure about PC/ windows. To this end, does anyone know any large organisation or govt department, only relies on windows protection without any internet/ security/ antivirus product? If windows protection is good enough for them then perhaps good enough for a individual user?
I'd go the other way in the last five years - Windows is very solid, but I would definitely recommend having anti-malware for a Mac.
Microsoft started focusing on security around the early to mid noughties (XP era), and it took them ten years or more to get to a point where things are now very solid. Apple had something like a ten-percent market-share back then, so malware didn't bother with them, but since Windows is now more secure, and Apple users tend to be less tech-savvy, it is a more attractive target for the malicious actors.
I hope I am wrong, but I suspect we will see Apple products getting a reputation for being insecure over the coming years unless and until they focus on it the same way Microsoft did, and even then it could take many years for them to recover.
Enterprise protection is quite different (enterprise is Microsoft's core market) and they will lock down their machines (generally Windows / Windows Server shops using Policies). It is not all that unusual for businesses to whitelist all applications, so that anything that is not whitelisted simply can't run. That's why most business users can't install / manage their own machines - only their IT admins can do that.
Will be interesting to see how things progress.
@Alan6984: Seeing that it's apple, there might just be a total ban on executables/applications that aren't from the mac app store.
@Bill: That's got to be possible I agree.
They have always sought to control what their customers can do, and it would be entirely consistent. I always feel that I am only renting my iPad from them - it still belongs to Apple, whereas at the other extreme, my Linux machines are entirely mine..
Most people beyond the clueless (my dad - late seventies for example) would not be happy with that, but we seem to have an entire generation of kids that have grown up with technology, but have little or no idea how anything actually works and can't begin to do anything other than the most trivial troubleshooting if something isn't working - maybe they will be willing to accept being put in a controlled pen, in which case it could be a good strategy for Apple to go with.
Inbuilt Windows A/v is fine and you could if you wish add something like Malwarebytes Free version to the mix. I"m an ex Pc tech and have only had the very very occasional virus or malware incursion and that was wayyy back in the earlier 2000's. Apple is certainly NOT 'better secured' I don't know where you got that from. There's very few virus attacks going on these days towards the ordinary user. And of course businesses use more robust security measures as they have lots more to lose. Most attacks today are using internal weaknesses like an employee giving out passwords or the old 'tech' scam where someone rings the victim and instills a sense of urgency because they're told their bank account has been 'hacked' or similar then asked to install remote control software and etc. The simplest form of protection is using your own smarts to not get tricked by such rubbish. Do NOT believe any voice on the phone or any email or similar without independant substantiation of the supposed issue they're telling you that you have. AS I say Windows inbuilt A/v is deemed pretty good. I have never bought any kind of paid for A/v subscription and indeed would have some years ago warned you against Norton in particular as they had a very well deserved bad reputation for poor product, unnecessarily scaremongering potential and existing clients and of recent years they instituted an auto rollover subscription model and made it very difficult to stop. All Shonky business practise.
@Drcspy: I agree - I have been an IT Consultant since the mid nineties, and I have not installed any third party AntiMalware on my own Windows machines for many years.
However, it is also correct to say that it comes down to common sense and not being credulous.
@Alan6984: thank you for very helpful discussion.
few points for clarification:
earlier I caution about the Norton auto-rollover subscription (at full price), but it is quite easy to un-subscribe (but the person needs to aware to unsubscribe in the first place which is not intuitive. For what's it's worth, I am aware someone managed to get refund by Norton out of the auto subscription once the credit card was charged. Quite a bit of (unnecessary) hassle
There are quite a number of review articles about Mac/apple having better security than PC, but I acknowledge in recent times, that may be less clear cut, or even going to other way..
e.g. windows "More prone to malware infections and cyberattacks"
https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/are-macs-safer-than-wind….
https://www.av-comparatives.org/mac-vs-windows-is-apple-real…
“Mac is probably more secure on the whole because Apple is in full control of both the hardware and software, whereas Windows has to be adapted to many different brands and models,"
https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/are-macs-safer-than-wind…
as per the team with IT experience here noted that nothing is fool proof and having some common sense approach is helpful. (i.e. there are many ways to protect oneself).
Some available statistics may question the lack of malware in recent times, individual risk may not be high. And I acknowledge, the point of having extra third party antimalware may not give a substantial protection, (but most govt, and large companies do buy such "insurance" for extra protection, so not completely worthless, but one could question value for money.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/873097/malware-attacks-p…
Finally, we need to keep in mind that the average person without IT experience, may not know all the ways to keep safe, e.g. check where the hyperlinks are going before clicking, or those car registration renewal that looks very similar to the real one esp if they match when the actual car registration is due. Having said all that having anti-malware does not necessarily prevent one from getting into trouble though.
@gooddeals: Yeah - you will still find a lot of people who think Macs are more secure. Probably a lot of diehard Apple users don't want to change their minds, and you won't ever convince them, so not worth trying to assist / advise them in that respect.
I have seen more issues with Macs than Windows machines in the last few years myself. My response is always the same regardless of OS - wipe it completely and start from scratch. I often can't tell the vector for infection though (more often than not, the user won't tell you the whole truth as they are embarassed).
My guess is that, as mentioned above, most of the time users' give malware actors access, but they won't admit it.
I worked for noel leeming until recently.
The reps for norton and trend didnt even talk about the antivirus parts of the product, if anything they want you to talk about ID protection, link checking, dark web monitoring, the vpn and password manager.
I guess they're trying to capitalise… or position themselves around scams / social-engineering hacks that happen. Makes sense.
They also go big on family monitoring, blocking etc etc.
Most of, if not all of what you get out of norton or trend can be accomplished free / cheaper… buuuuuuuuuuuuut there's somethign alright about a single-center.
Norton commandeering browsers can get (profanity) though.
The product specifically linked is mobile security. My thoughts were always… if a consumer antivirus works on an iphone then you'd actually have a reason to buy it.
https://www.jbhifi.co.nz/?q=%2A&idx=NZ_PRODUCTS_price_low_hi…
Not sure if that covers everything, but it sorts 16,884 product lines so gives you a good start.