I'm gonna leave this here so that people can decide for themselves if they still wanna keep the app or just use the website instead.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/woolworths-can-record-licence-…
WW/CD is spying on you!
LKiwiHunts4CheapDeals on 13/02/2024 - 23:33
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Is it related to installing the app though?
Don't you agree to the terms when you sign up, regardless of whether you download the app?
Either way, why would you install some random software on your machine unless you have a compelling reason, but that's a whole 'nother level of … :-)
None of this is really new. Majority of that info is handed over to any app/membership on signup (name, DOB, address, gender, IP address etc etc)
With a rewards scheme they track your spending habits and potentially tailor it to you. Again nothing new.
The facial recognition stuff is kinda cool tech, but don't think anything like that has been implemented/integrated into their new system. If you aren't shoplifting then who cares?
You enter one of the competitions on this site and you should read what they do with your data.
Maybe I'm just numb to it but I couldn't care less. I'm just another entry into a DB. People who get overly concerned with this sort of stuff seem to be of the conspiracist variety.
Your non seeing the bigger picture.
Do you have any idea of how all this can be packaged and sold? How much data they really have on you?
Though your purchases they can tell if your single, married, have kids, are male or female, are sick, on your period, buy condoms once a week at this location, how much you drink, smoke, eat junk, how mu h caffeine you drink, how wealthy you are, when your sad, when your kid is around, when you partner is around, that you had a party last night, that you've got the runs….. And much, much more.
And even if this data is sold as an "anonymous" package of data that is is very easy for it to be compiled and your identity and every bit of data connected back to you.
they can't tell any of that, they can assume it. who would they sell it to?
@LupinS: I tried. ChatGPT requires an account and I don't have time right now to read the long terms and privacy policy. Google didn't give me a straight answer for "does woolworths nz know that I had a party last night".
Thanks for the links though, would be interesting to know what's changed in 4 years,@gcnz: Worries about Woolworths but has no worries about their information with Google and ChatGPT and all their other big tech companies that they have signed up with. Worries being a product of Woolworths but ok with being a product of Google?
If they can take that information and use it to improve my shopping experience then great, collect away.
I'd love countdown to drop-off a blue Powerade when I'm exorcising my demons on the toilet…
I think most understand they are the product in these situations and the exchange is rewards/vouchers for the privilege. New World, McDonalds, Subway, Burger King, Dominos, Uber, every food delivery service… the list goes on and on. They all do the same thing, collect info on you and tailor their business and processes around consumer behaviour and habits. Cool story, I know. Couldn't care less. Give me my next X discount, thanks.
Yep - I totally agree.
We have all known that we are the product for 'free services' for twenty years, probably more.
There is nothing new here unless you've been clueless / hiding under a rock for decades.
How is it just a problem with the Rewards? How would they link a licence plate to a Rewards customer?
If they're recording video and audio in store then they must be recording everyone. With Rewards are you just agreeing to have the video and audio linked to your Rewards account which must happen after you swipe your card, so it's been recording before then anyway.I would think that many people wouldn't park in the store carpark anyway due to the risk of car damage. But if they are recording cars, if you get car damage while carking int he car park, they should be able to help customers out. But I wonder if they will?
Where are you parking if you aren't parking at the supermarket?
On the road outside the supermarket. It is also often a closer walk to the door of the store, but you minimise the risk of car damage.
I smell a rat. And a mouse!
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Who is not using Gmail, Hotmail, Facebook, Aliexpress, Amazon, food delivery apps etc etc? They are far more aggressive on data harvesting then this smaller players. Heck even posting on cheapies would track you, don't get me wrong it does. If you are that concerned get off internet, smart phones etc etc.
This things are not new, it just that people are getting more aware of it.
Me! I don't use Gmail, Facebook, AliExpress or food delivery apps! :)
Isn't license plate details opt out and extremely rare to get access to from NZTA, so how is recording a number plate helping CD??
Isn't license plate details opt out and extremely rare to get access to from NZTA, so how is recording a number plate helping CD??
I would guess that it means that, if someone requests footage from their cameras, you have agreed in advance to allowing them to give that footage out.
I suspect that the police (or at least a court) could always get such footage if they really wanted, but I am imagining a scenario where an insurance company wanted it, and currently the store might run into Privacy Act issues.
Yeah I'm thinking though why would they try to associate a license plate with a ER card holder not knowing who the license plate actually belongs to.. if used for some nefarious tracking purposes ;)
To be honest I think these loyalty programs should be banned in NZ especially when we have a duopoly and a lack of competition in the market. They mean that people that don't use them end up paying more and essentially subsiding those that get the deals. Those people that don't use them also can be older and have less income. IMO if they can offer these deals to some customer, they can offer them to everyone. They banned this sort of thing in the electricity market when some companies were offering cheaper pricing if you paid your bill early. Possibly 95% of people don't read terms and conditions due to the way they are worded and the length, and I wonder how many people would have signed up if they had read this.
Yeah I lived in a town of ~15000 that had only a New World and Countdown as the local supermarkets(Pak'n'save was 25min away) so you were forced to use a loyalty card at either store to get fair pricing or drive 30min to shop elsewhere. Not really fair.
Nothing stopping you from switching accounts, perhaps after you zero out your points by redeeming a voucher. The only unique info you need to supply is an email address.
Better go off grid and live in the woods if you are that worried.
So is Facebook, Twitter, your ISP, Bunnings Powerpass, Bank, Credit Card, Police with ANPR cameras, your neighbour, Google etc
Plenty more to worry about than Woolies, if you want to be that concerned about these things, but at least they gives you $15 (with minimum spends)
Well PaknSave also using facial technology in store.
Found this today
How many of you are going to boycott them 😂?
Yeah, just came across this today on TikTok
https://files.cheapies.nz/upload/485/4887/pns.jpg
https://www.tiktok.com/@thecontraversialkiwi/video/733641847…
"Big Brother is watching you."