Kia EV6 Air RWD Long Range $59,990 (List Price $79,990) +ORC (Some Include ORC) @ Select Kia Dealers via Trade Me

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Kia EV6 Air RWD Long Range $59,990 (List Price $79,990) +ORC (Some Include ORC) @ Select Kia Dealers via Trade Me
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scott on 10/01/2025 - 15:13 trademe.co.nz (386 clicks)
Last edited 10/01/2025 - 16:35 by 1 other user

8 units of the EV6 Air RWD advertised on trade me from various dealers at $59,990. (suspect this price is available nationwide).

Not quite as good of a deal as the $45k mach-e's of late last year, and while the EV6 feels a bit less premium, it does have some key advantages: 528km WLTP range, 800 volt fast charging (10% - 80% in 18mins), Vehicle to load (230 volt, 16 Amp max, so grunt enough to run basically any appliance / tool that comes with a domestic plug), rated for towing in NZ (1600kg braked), and it includes a domestic socket style charger.

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  • nzmax on 10/01/2025 - 16:58

    About the same price as a RAV4 Hybrid Ltd. It does seem ironic that the loss of the clean car discount is leading to far better deals for consumers. But it almost feels like dealers are getting out of EVs in NZ because of current policies which seem to favour hybrids and small efficient ICEs at the moment, so a big drop off in people buying EVs.

    • pdevonporf on 10/01/2025 - 17:45
      +4

      If the EV market was properly set up and legislated from the start with universal charging and a battery exchange program that was affordable, the economics of EV would work instead of social warfare for EV drivers.

      • scott on 10/01/2025 - 20:32
        +3

        On battery swapping, mandating this from the start of the modern EV wave (2011) in NZ would have been a mistake.

        Project better place (Israel) failed in 2013.

        Tesla' abandoned it's sole battery swap station in 2015 due to lack of customer interest.

        High chance that any legislated battery swap system in NZ would have met the same fate (and banning non battery swap type EV's would have reduced uptake in early years).

        While there has been a bit of a resurgence in battery swapping recently (i.e. nio in china), plus truck and motorcycle systems (latter looking quite promising for many small motorcycle centric communities in asia), I still don't feel it is the right move for NZ. This particular EV can do a run from Wellington to Auckland with a single 18 minute charge stop in Taupo, so little effort in spending millions on a swapping station.

        With regards to "Universal charging", while we don't have this, we have a good enough solution. Guidelines for public charging are here:

        https://www.nzta.govt.nz/planning-and-investment/planning/tr…

        In short the Guidelines for public charging are that AC charging is provided by a untethered type 2 socket (with the the driver supping a cable suitable for connection from this socket to whatever kind of AC socket their car is fitted with.

        For DC charging, the guidance is that the station provided both CCS2 & CHADEMO tethered connectors.

        The History of EV charging connectors in NZ is kind of interesting. Until ~2016 there was no government guidance at all, and charging providers were rolling out the USA system of the time here. Tethered type 1 AC charging & dual CCS1 & CHAdeMO DC charging.

        Took quite a large lobby effort from the community to get the government to put out the guidelines. Very greatfull that happened, as the current charging setup has allowed us to grow through japan imports (type 1 & CHAdeMO), and own to a point where NZ new vehicle are becoming dominant (largely CCS2). And critically this setup is electrically suitable for NZ where 3 phase power is a thing.

    • scott on 10/01/2025 - 21:10
      +3

      While there is a global glut of EV's, It is partially prominent in NZ, where global economic factors are stacked on top of policy change.

      The near concurrent loss of the clean car discount and introduction of RUC's hit pretty hard when stacked on top of those global economic factors.

      Personally I feel that the loss of the clean car discount was the minor side of the issue. Plenty of cars that launched with prices over the $80k cap so would have never been eligible for the clean car discount unless they had the kind of steep retail price discounting we are seeing now. (Stuff like the Mach e GT, Lexus RZ450e, Kia EV9).

      I think it is the RUC's being set at 7.6c/km that is really burning EV sales. People just don't like the idea of buying a EV that will need to pay around double the road tax of a hybrid rav4 etc. And people have little faith that the government will follow through on it's word and roll out RUC's to all vehicles (in a timely way at least).

      Kinda amusing how badly the auto import industry has been screwed over by the current government, given how much donations are publicly declared going the from the auto industry to parties in the current government.

      No secret that dealers are pulling back on EV's in NZ, given the current enviroment.

      Hyundai NZ has gone from offering the Ioniq, the Ioniq 5 & the Ioniq6, to as per their webpage today, offering only the $135k Ioniq 5N.
      VW confirmed in feb 2024 they will be dropping the I.D.5 from their lineup once current inventory is cleared (it is still not yet cleared), and confirmed at the same time that they will not be importing the ID.7 sedan and wagon (the later of which is a major loss to the NZ EV scene). And they have quietly never launched the I.D.3

      Nissan is a funny one, they cleared the leaf at firesale prices, and canceled the Arana for NZ, before un-canceling it a couple of months later (I guess nissan global forced them to take a allocation)

      Mazda has dropped it's MX-30 electric, while Honda & Suzuki have never offered a plug in car in NZ.

      Should note that as a whole, NZ auto registrations for 2024 were down 13.5%, despite consumers deferring high emission vehicle purchase from 2023 to 2024 to avoid the "ute tax", so the auto market as a whole is fairly cold. And off the sales that were made they were dominated by business & fleet buyers. (ev sales tend to be to private buyers):

      https://www.goauto.com.au/news/nz-sales/nz-sales-2024/nz-sal…

      "Overall, business purchasers bought more vehicles than private buyers, some 67,631 registrations chalked up to business buyers against 41,229 private buyers. Government and rental fleet purchases took care of the remainder at 2752 and 17,216 units respectively."

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