Was just looking for myself and wanted to share some that I personally think are pretty good. There are some others but not of my interest at the moment.
Price will be made available at midnight
Also remember freeship
could pricematch the tablet for some flybuys at NL
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MPHMIX0111101/Xiaomi-Redmi-…
NFC is probably the least used tech in my phone. Not a big miss, unless you want to use Google Pay.
I understand things will be different to everybody but I would have hoped it was included as I feel nfc should be a standard feature considering how mainstream it is.
Google pay is the reason, yes.
It's also an 11 inch tablet with no cell modem. NFC is lacking but I don't think many would consider the lack of it a big issue on a wifi only tablet.
I wouldn't envisage it being the most useful device for Google pay as you'd need to somehow connect it to something then hold up a huge tablet to the card reader. Probably easier to just stick with a phone for payments if gkurs can do them.
Bit confused, I'm talking about the phone here.
Sorry I didn't see the phone part of the deal, I thought the second link was to the original free postage deal like it is in most of these pb tech deals. That makes more sense to want NFC than on the tablet.
Not a bad price for the tablet. Just double check the RAM is correct. Title says 6GB but in the description it says 4GB. Maybe check the settings when you receive it to make sure.
If you really want a tablet that's bang for your buck, have a look at this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000193213484.html
I bought it for $262 (including import tax and shipping) for my mother in law. No issues at all and works very well, with great battery life. Great performance for gaming as well. Apart from the difference in CPU, most of the important specs (RAM, emmC) are pretty much the same as the Lenovo. It also supports 4G SIM, whereas the Lenovo doesn't. This is great if you wanna travel with it. And it's still a good $90~$100 off compared to the $354.99 Lenovo. Lots of good reviews on this tablet too, especially at OZBargain and on Youtube.
There's also some level of custom ROM support over at XDA. I rooted the tablet and was able to install a GSI ROM just fine.
Hows the screen, decent colour range etc?
Screen is good, colour range is decent for a tablet less than $300. Overall quality is actually pretty damn good and you can even find cases for the tablet on Aliexpress. Again, this tablet was purchased for my mother-in-law and she doesn't need to use it heavily for anything. But if you want to game on it and do most of the typical stuff that you would do on a tablet, it's more than enough. CPU benchmarks quite well compared to the Snapdragon 662 - https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/unisoc-tiger-t618-vs-q…
Also, Widevine L1 works on this tablet. My mother-in-law doesn't watch Netflix all that much, but it works.
not sure why someone neg'd your comment but thanks for the input :)
@Dunno: Not sure why either, but I have a fairly good idea. I've made several comments in the past on Cheapies that triggered a lot of people. I once posted a photo proving that you can checkout with a free shipping coupon code for The Warehouse and got downvoted because they were salty that I was right. I had discussions in the past that brought up my wealth and that got a few people jealous. Haters gonna hate lol. I don't really care either way. If people find my comments useful, then that's good. If not, meh.
If anyone's interested, here's the comparison of the SoC between the tablet I recommended and the Lenovo one:
https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/unisoc-tiger-t618-vs-q…
Assuming its the 4gb model and the title has an error (as the description says 4gb not 6gb) You can get it on the Market with the current discount code for $306
https://themarket.com/nz/p/lenovo-xiaoxin-p11-pad-4gb-64gb-w…
No, it's the 6 GB one since pb sells that model as well
Looks like the fixed the description now.
have the p11 for both my parents they find t quite useful.
though be wary about widevine L1 doesn't always work well with netflix, check the ozbargin comments about it.
I have the same issue with a MI brand tablet. Netflix says its unsupported. Easy enough to get around thou by downloading the install file directly and even though that is like 4 years old now still works fine without an update.
CPU probably can't compete with Snapdragon
Look at my comment above.
I listed this as an option since it has 4g.
I myself would no longer buy any Android tablets. They're fairly laggy and updates are rare, device security should be more important than it is.
I bought used iPad Pro and I'm really happy with it.
Sorry, but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. Android is open source and this means you can easily find custom ROMs available, including GSI custom ROMs. An Android phone that is over 10 years old could still receive updates to this day via custom ROMs, compared to an iPhone that is over 10 years old. I'm not talking about small patch updates btw, I'm talking like OS upgrades. It's amazing how some 10 year old phones can run on Android 10~12, despite that they are way out of support and were probably released with Android 5 or 6 at best. You can even flash different OS like Ubuntu Touch or whatever on them if you want.
If you're in the custom ROM scene, they release updates nightly and this of course includes any security patches that are available. In a lot of cases, custom ROMs are much better than stock ROM and adds way more features and functionalities that you wouldn't normally get in a stock ROM.
I always hear people talking about "security" and "antivirus" or something related. Some people think having multiple antivirus software and anti-malware and anti-keylogger and anti this and anti that installed is gonna protect them. They also think having updates applied is always a good thing. Ever heard of bad Windows Tuesday patches? Things break all the time and just because it's a patch, doesn't mean it's necessarily good. Having more than 1 antivirus software installed is a terrible idea as well. If you actually know what you're doing and you're not clicking on phishing emails or installing dodgy Android .apk or iOS .ipa files and going to dodgy websites, then security patches shouldn't concern you and you shouldn't ever run into issues.
If you're a power user and know how to customize your Android device, it shouldn't be laggy whatsoever. I can't remember the last time I experienced lag and I multi-task and run heaps of apps on my phone. I'm not even using a high-end phone.
Sorry, but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.
@Nythic: Oh really? That's funny because the last time I checked, I've worked in IT for 10 years and have multiple certifications, including security related certifications under my belt. I have credibility to an extent. How about you? Oh that's right, you were asking the question "How about this tablet instead". Oh yeah, sounds like you're the expert here, despite not knowing how to check for simple specs on a product.
I've managed plenty of iOS and Android devices in the past, both personally and at work for enterprises. I've managed them via InTune and Apple Business Manager and dealt with pushing security policies and apps to them, setting up work profiles and implementing anti-jailbreak and anti-root solutions to prevent people from bypassing them.
I've bypassed the iCloud activation lock for an iPhone 8 that I've purchased on TM for $50 (secure my ass) a couple of years ago.
I've modified and also spoofed the IMEI on blacklisted devices to get around the carrier lock (so I can text and make calls).
I know plenty of stuff related to jailbreaking, installing mods and pirated apps on iOS and bypass in-App payments.
I know plenty of stuff on Android related to rooting, as well as installing custom ROMs and kernels and making my own kernel changes, as well as installing Riru and Exposed modules. I can run Linux packages on my Android, dual boot to other OS, even run VMs on my Android as well. I can automate a bunch of stuff using webhooks and REST-APIs all directly on my Android using MacroDroid or Tasker.
I've created malwares and DDOS packages as part of a penetration-test job that I worked on in the past. I've bypassed certain Windows security related to remote app and Radius servers.
I know how to reverse engineer apps (written in .NET, C++, C#) and crack them to remove the payment functionality, as well as injecting packets with modified opscode to MMORPG games (e.g. hacking the game to give me millions of gold or whatever).
Remind me again why you're commenting on an Android-specific deal? Yeah, why don't you go back and use your iPad that is designed for older generation folks who don't know shit about tech and leave the Android discussions to the power users who do. I'll also introduce my grandparents to you as well, they love their iPads that I got for them and I'm sure they can teach you a trick or 2.
@NovaAlpha: Sorry, but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.
Got personal issues and that's why you get triggered so quick and start attacking?
Standard users should not need to unlock the bootloader and use custom ROM to get the experience that should be there in the first place.
I've had many many Android devices in the past and lots of cheap devices don't get any Android upgrades.
I'm running PixelExperience or LineageOS on few of my phones because vendor hasn't released updates for quite some time.
I also play a mobile game on iPad Pro 11" (2018) with "highest" quality, while on Samsung S21 it runs on "high" quality but still can't keep up. Being last years flagship device, I would have expected it to be better.
Have you actually used any Apple tablets or phones? I've been using Android for years, but now I want a device that works, so considering swapping my phone with iPhone as well.
@Nythic: LOL. I thought I was pretty nice about it in my first comment and provided a decent explanation.
So you DO know about the process of bootloader unlock and custom ROMs etc. Which means you're not a standard user then. So again, this proves my point. If you know what you're doing, then your complaint for the lack of security updates should be a non-issue. I still have my iPhone 5S from years ago and it's completely out of support, can't install the latest iOS (unless there's a cFW somewhere? I know many years ago there was a team that released cFW for iOS for the iPhone 3 or whatever). Whereas with Android, even a 10 year old phone can still be used to this day, running the latest (or at least close to the latest) Android OS and security patches.
And there are also plenty of cheap devices that still get Android security updates, or even firmware updates. I have a $300 Xiaomi phone and I'm still getting security updates (I'm running stock but rooted ROM on Android 12 atm). This phone is like 2 years old at this point. As long as we're not talking literally dirt cheap $100 shitty brand or non-branded Android devices from Aliexpress, then you should at least get official OEM updates for a good 2~3 years and outside of that, just use custom ROM, easy.
You're comparing a $300 Android device to a $1500 iPhone and despite knowing about custom ROMs, you still choose to complain about the issues on a $300 device. As for the lag, I thought you were talking about normal use. If it's gaming wise, then the lag isn't 100% Android specific. Games use CPU and GPU and so it's really about the chip. I admit, Apple makes good chips (M1 and M2) and I wish those were available on devices outside of Apple products. But you can hardly blame gaming lag due to a OS platform. Games are sometimes optimized for certain chips, it's the same idea with AMD vs Nvidia. "LAG" doesn't really relate to running the games on Windows, it's mostly dependent on how well the games are optimized for the chip architecture or platform. I don't know what games you were playing, but most of the games I've played on my low-spec'd $300 Android phone are fine and I can hardly care about running games at the "highest" quality on a mobile device. If I want gaming, I'd just play on my Switch or Steam Deck or stream from my PC via Rainway or Parsec or whatever.
And yes, I have used Apple tablets or phones, I already stated that didn't I? I've used iOS since it first came out. I've had a couple of iPod Touches and iPhones and iPads back in the day. I bought my parents iPhones (one of them is a $50 one that was sold on TM, which was blacklisted as it was most likely stolen. I bypassed the iCloud activation and bypassed the IMEI block on it). I've jailbroken plenty of iOS devices over the course of the iOS firmware iterations. I remember geohot's jailbreak tools, I remember Cydia and I remember sideloading pirated .IPA files. I manage my parents' iOS devices occasionally, help them set up adblock to block ads system-wide and block Youtube ads, etc. I occasionally follow the jailbreak scene in iOS to see what the latest exploits are about. I had an iPad 2 that I loved but later sold.
As a power user, iOS is just not there with Android. You can't automate a lot of things on iOS and the Shortcuts app is a joke. You can't invoke webhooks, can't manipulate JSON data, can't do a lot of things basically. I can make my Android send a command to run an app or do whatever on my PC. I can automate checking Google Maps API to tell me what the traffic is every 5pm and tell me which route to take (motorway or normal route) to commute home. I can get in my car and my phone will automatically enable bluetooth, open Spotify and open my dashcam recording app and start doing a bunch of stuff. All without me doing anything.
I can do a bunch of stuff with Android. I can easily backup and restore over 500 apps AND their app settings and data on Android. I can easily backup and restore partitions on Android with TWRP. If my phone gets stolen, I can buy the exact same one cheap for $300 and restore everything back to normal within 2 hours and I'm talking the wifi SSID passwords, all my call histories, SMS messages, all my 500 apps AND their settings, everything exactly the same, a 1:1 copy.
The last time I checked, the iOS jailbreaking scene is dying and that means all the awesome mods and tweaks that people have created won't be as used as much. The iOS downgrade process is a pain as well and you have to backup the SHSH blobs and some other stuff I can't remember. The nature of iOS is that it's closed source, meaning that everything is controlled by Apple and you're locked into their ecosystem. For some people, that's fine. For someone who is a power user like me, that's shit.
You're welcome to use whatever platform or device that you want. I recommend Android and iOS devices to people depending on which one suits them. You came to this deal asking about an Android device, hence why I'm telling you about the Android specific things. If you're complaining about lack of security on Android, well I've already explained that above and the point is to not be a dumb user and get phished and not go to dodgy sites. If you do that correctly, there's no need to worry about these issues. There's always talks about how Mac is more secure than Windows or that Linux is more secure or whatever, but there was a while where that wasn't the case. Exploits and vulnerabilities can pop up left and right, regardless of what platform you use. As for the lag, well I have no idea what game you were running and what the phone environment or setup is like. Until I can see what the benchmark says and do a proper comparison test, I won't comment further on that. Plus, I already stated that I personally think gaming on mobile is pointless and I've had no issues gaming on it anyway (I've played a fair share of MMORPG and various other genre mobile games, including games on emulators like PSP games, DS games, etc).
Lenovo tablet PC Xiaoxin Pad P11 Plus 2021 Global version (wifi - 1st bundle)
$378.19 delivered
Hope you guys had a better experience with the P11.
Got one for a family member, the thing just overheated out of the blue and the screen died. Took it back, and we were told we dropped it (we didn't) - assessment showed some hardware issue and we got a replacement, which now is overheating too. Just been about 6-8 weeks since we got the new one. Bummer.
It was not from PB Tech, it was Noel Leeming.
Hmm I have a P11 6GB/128….it's great. Had it for a couple months so far with no issues.
Truly believe it's a case of bad fluke! Lenovo has worked well in the past. So that's a shame.
Its that with gaming or general use?
General use. For my mother-in-law. She's almost 70. So pretty general.
Beware the phone does not seem to come with nfc, which is very disappointing.