I have one of these and love it.
Was $3,399.00, reduced to $2199 + $330 BARISTA GIFT PACK BY REDEMPTION
I have one of these and love it.
Was $3,399.00, reduced to $2199 + $330 BARISTA GIFT PACK BY REDEMPTION
Definitely the oracle!
If your key focus is convenience then sure this is the machine for you. But its really just a glorified BES870 with added auto tamping, integrated grinder with a more steps & LCD display. I believe it lacks shot refinement as you can't use the grinder without automatic dosing + tamping.
Not sure that justifies an extra $1500 on top of something like the BES870.
Guess it all depends if you want to actually enjoy the experience/treat it as a hobby etc. If that is the case I'd be going a 2nd hand E.61 group head + seperate grinder. Gives a lot more flexibility with adjustment and quality.
I've used the Oracle (extensively) and sure it's a simple to use machine that does everything for you, but it's so uninspiring if you enjoy the coffee making process. It's purely a convenience option in my eyes, I've never been able to get it to make fantastic coffee. My 2c.
The BES870 has a 54mm portafilter, right?
I guess the oracle wins on that for being a 58 one. It's tricky, I would certainly enjoy the fiddly of coffee brewing (since I already do this with Moka pot, pour over and Aeropress). But my wife is not as nerdy as I am. And for that, the oracle seems it would be great. OMG I so don't know what to do.
@Neotk: I went Magnifica -> Oracle - and its amazing. However - I am now making stronger brews so only managing 3 per day vs 6 with the delonghi…
@alanimal: I did some research and have had the following decision. Depending on how the prices on the Black Friday go:
If I can find Breville Dynamic Duo for less than $1700, I'll get this.
Otherwise, I'll buy a Niche Zero grinder + a Bambino Plus.
@Neotk: As long as you get decent beans, you are good to go!!!!
OMG, I'm so looking forward for my first espresso machine.
I was more into the Dynamic Duo to be able to get a proper grinder later on.
But this price on the oracle is really tempting. I'll wait for the expert opinion on this. Dynamic Duo or The Oracle.