Youtube Premium Turkey family plan - any workarounds?

Currently using the Turkey family plan for wife and kids mobile devices, TV and iPad etc. paid for with Wise. Looks like they're finally cracking down on it. Anyone know of any current working methods to get a cheaper family plan other than the $30 they're asking for here?

Email I received earlier:

Hi,

YouTube Premium memberships based in Turkey require a form of payment issued in Turkey.

To maintain your membership, please update your form of payment to one issued in Turkey before November 21, 2024. If you do not update your form of payment, your membership will not renew automatically, and you will lose access to your YouTube Premium benefits.

UPDATE FORM OF PAYMENT

If you have moved to a different country and need to update your signup country, please cancel your membership and re-sign up.

To check the status of your membership and billing information, go to your Settings > Purchases and Memberships page.

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  • What payment method are you using?

    Mine is still working fine

    • Wise virtual card.

      It just renewed a couple of days ago, so I'm guessing it triggered some check on where it was issued

  • Yeah I just got this email today as well.

    • +1

      I'm starting to feel like I don't want to give them my money any more (no matter how little it is). I'll see if anything pops up in the next month otherwise I might just cancel it

    • +1

      Everybody is getting this email. It is a worldwide crackdown.

  • +1

    I also received this email today. They must really be cracking down on it. If only the NZ price wasn’t so high

  • I also got this email, on an account using Revolut.

  • Looks like this is only for Turkey memberships? Anybody from India, Argentina or other countries received this email? I have Indian membership and nothing so far.

    • On the ozbargain forums a couple of people have mentioned getting the same email for Argentina and Ukraine accounts

      • Yep, I got it for Argentina.

    • I don't have a problem with my Indian membership. The family plan price went up last month. Also, I am using my Indian credit card as the payment method

      • +2

        Indian credit card, nice. How about you pay for my YouTube with it, and I pay you the cost +10% into your NZ bank?

    • My India membership (paid with ASB Visa) got cancelled. I was asked to agree to a price increase which I did but I still got the cancellation email this morning

  • Same here for Turkey with an ANZ credit

  • +3

    Some alternative ad-free options:
    NewPipe - Android and Android TV/box
    SmartTube - Android TV/box, Fire Stick, NVIDIA Shield

    SmartTube also has SponsorBlock built-in, so no more sitting through sponsored segments of videos. There's a forked version of NewPipe with SponsorBlock too.

    There is no requirement to login to either application - you can subscribe to channels while signed out, so no need to manually type and search for videos and channels.

    You can export your YouTube subscriptions list from your Google account and then import it into NewPipe. Instructions here. Unfortunately I don't believe there's any such function within SmartTube at the moment. You can just login to SmartTube with your Google account but I've avoided this for security reasons. Safest thing would probably be to set up a burner email account for it.

    • +1

      Looks like I have to do some research on what's available for workarounds, I've been reading up on reVanced a little. Smart tube looks interesting, I wonder if I can get it installed on my TV.

      Does Newpipe also work for YouTube Music? That's probably the biggest loss for me.

      • +2

        Revanced is vastly superior to newpipe. It is basically an exact replica of YouTube premium and there are no downsides. It is even better than YouTube premium because it has everything YouTube premium has and way more. It is extremely easy and simple to do once you get the hang of it.

        There is also a revanced patch for YouTube music that I assume works well. I personally don't use YouTube music, I use Spotify instead.

        The workarounds for YouTube are so easy and effective no one should be paying for premium if they are using YouTube on a laptop or android device.

        • Thanks. Does Revanced work with Spotify? I just need music streaming, I don't really mind changing to Spotify. It was just nice having everything done under one membership.

          I'm going to try installing it this weekend and see how it goes.

          • @kinetic9: Revanced did have a spotify patch last time I checked but I don't know much about it because I use xmanager instead for Spotify.

        • +1

          I use reVanced for YT Music and it works fine. Better than paying for it I mean.

      • I have a google tv so had to use an installer to get smarttube on since it's not in the google play store. But it only worked for a day before it started getting an error. It was also very ugly.

        • +1

          I'm using it on the Google TV Streamer and it's been working fine since I installed it, there have been a few updates that can be installed through the app itself.

          Yeah it's ugly but it works flawlessly for me and has a lot of features. Built in SponsorBlock is also nice and something I've missed from desktop. I don't keep it signed in as it's mainly the kids using it on the TV. I can cast directly to the smarttube app from my phone if I want to watch something on the TV.

          • @kinetic9: I forced an update and it works again!

            • @flembots: Yeah if you get the 405 error, or whatever number, then there is usually an update that can be done to fix it.

  • +1

    I did Mexico over the weekend. Just logged into Youtube, turned the VPN on to Mexico and then paid for my sub with my ANZ visa card.

    It's $23NZD vs the previous $6 I was paying, but still better than ~$40 NZ pricing…..

    • I see $29.99 for the family plan in NZ. Is it the price increasing to $40?

      • It showed me $40, don’t know why

        • Now it shows $30 lol. Well i saved $6…..

  • +1

    Are they cracking on family plan? I'm on individual plan and didn't get this email. Last payment was on 16 October though

    • Still yet to receive an email. Turkish family membership. $5.77 went out today.

      • One week later, same story here. Potentially related; has the Turkish method impacted your ability to use the NZ Play Store at all? I'm not able to access the NZ store any more despite having gone through every step listed anywhere to confirm my country is NZ, and I'm wondering now if my getting to keep the Turkish pricing is related to that.

        • +1

          Yep. I can’t access NZ apps. I have a second Google account for that.

          • @Wakrak: I wish I'd thought of this before signing up. I'll have to shift to a new account if I ever actually need an NZ locked app.

        • me too, haven't received any email and the monthly payment will goo through next week so will let you know.

          I have a separate account for Youtube premium which has Turkish payment profile so perhaps that's why.

          • @spam: Just got the following today:

            YouTube Premium memberships based in Turkey require a form of payment issued in Turkey.

            To maintain your membership, please update your form of payment to one issued in Turkey before December 5, 2024. If you do not update your form of payment, your membership will not renew automatically, and you will lose access to your YouTube Premium benefits.

            • @Wakrak: I got the same for India today.

              • @ace310: Same for me in ukraine. Ill enjoy it while i have it then explore options. Love ad free youtube but not sure i want to pay full price for it.

                • @Everettpsycho: @ace310 are you guys in family plan? I haven't received the email and I'm on individual plan

                  • @spam: Yes. have family plan.

            • @Wakrak: ah dang.

              But it seems you're on family plan? perhaps they're going through family membership first before the individual ones. Mine renew next week so would be interested to see if I get that email.

            • @Wakrak: @ace310Got this email instead:

              To continue delivering great service and features, we’re increasing your price to TRY 79.99/month. We don’t make these decisions lightly, but this update will allow us to continue to improve Premium and support the creators and artists you watch on YouTube.

              You will see the change reflected on your December 15, 2024 billing date.

              • @spam: Interestingly I received one last night for the family plan going up to TRY 159.99/month as well. I'm still a couple weeks away from renewal so still waiting to see if it goes through.

                • @kinetic9: @Wakrak@ace310 Payment for this month individual plan just got through. So perhaps they're cracking family plan first then individual plan next?

                  • @spam: My individual plan (India) got the notice. I've been paying for the last few years with a NZ Amex.

                    • @RockCartel: I'm using Wise. so we'll see how long it last.

                  • @spam: Mine is set to auto-debit on 26th Nov. Will see how that goes.

                  • @spam: My notice saud 5/12 i need a new payment method, but that doesnt coincide with my monthly payments. Im anticipating this months will go through fine but december payments is where we may start running in to problems.

                  • @spam: My renewal is on the 21st, so I’ll see what happens then.

                • @kinetic9: Mine has gone up to TRY 209.99/month for family plan - probably Apple tax as I'm paying via iTunes cards

                  • @saxasianguy: Prices have gone up across all regions/platforms.

                    • +1

                      @ace310: I understand that but was replying to Kinetic who said he received price increase to TRY 159.99 while mine went up to TRY 209.99 which is a big price difference for the same plan for both of us living in 'Turkey'

                      • @saxasianguy: That’s interesting, that’s a big jump up. I guess I’m in the poorer part of “Turkey”

  • +1

    I got the email today. Mine is the family plan via Argentina. They are cracking down on all plans and regions.

  • +7

    I had the same problem. What worked for me is the Apple ID method - you need to make a Turkish Apple ID account & top it up using iTunes vouchers from Turgame. Then go in to your YouTube app on an iPhone and subscribe to the plan there. I believe they charge for a whole year at a time but I don’t remember.

    If you want to further maximise your value you can sell your spare slots in OzBargain’s classifieds section. I sold two spare slots at $40AUD ea which pretty much covered the plan cost.

    • This might be my backup if I'm not happy with anything else. Kind of annoying but we'll see if they crackdown on that method closer to when my month is up.

  • +2

    if you have an iPhone then you can create a Turkish ID and pay in itunes, I use a spare old phone and pay lira 75.99 or $3.69 for single account, buying gift cards to load into itunes but you may already know this method

    • With this method your phone is switched (and stuck on) to the Turkish App Store right? Which stops access to apps only available in our NZ AppStore eg (I'm guessing) The Warehouse?

      • +2

        Nope. You just log into the Turkish account to top up with gift cards, then you can just log out and log back in with your NZ account. All the apps etc remain and update as per usual

      • Used the same method, but switched from Turkey to India since India was slightly cheaper.

  • +2

    From a post I made in August. I've been using since then with no issues….

    However, I may have found a new and still cheap way….. gamsgo.com

    Essentially, it seems you're buying in to a New Zealand based YouTube family plan, they manage, with randoms. No VPN random sign up process needed. Just paid $40.14 for 6 months, so $6.69 per month. They also offer other subscription services too (Netflix, Spotify, Duolingo(?) etc.)

    They give you a Youtube join link straight away. Needed a quick chat with their their online support to get up and running (had to delete the foreign payment profiles from my Google account) but I'm now back in the game with a Premium subscription.

    From what I can see, although you can see the names and emails of the other randoms also joined to the shared plan they cant see your viewing history / access your account / change anything. Please correct me if my understanding of the family plan membership is wrong.

  • Can you just make a bank account in Turkey lol - as a Kiwi??!

    • You can get one through Wise. I have one linked to mine, though I am not sure how to use it for online payments once adding their currency, as the virtual cards generated are for my NZ account.

      • +1

        I have one linked to mine as well, I also have a wise physical card. I updated my payment method in youtube to use the physical card instead of the virtual and Google did a temporary hold check in TRY currency. I wonder if that's enough to fool them, will have to wait and see next month.

        • Interesting. Did you load TRY on for it or just NZD?

          My premium is via Argentina. I had Turkey setup for Netflix before they also started making that difficult. I have recently dumped it for Stremio with a Real-Debrid account as they started making sharing the account a pain.

          Will be good if that works though. I really don't want to lose my Premium, mostly for Music, as I have a network level ad-blocker and work from home, so that would deal with YouTube itself.

          • +1

            @CrusaderNZ: I usually load around 3 months of TRY currency at a time on it for youtube. There was still some on there, but the hold check was for 0 TRY anyway.

            Honestly, I don’t mind losing it for YouTube, as there’s workarounds but losing Music will suck, unless I can find a way to get cheap Spotify.

            I’ve switched to SmartTube on android/google tv and it seems to work perfectly fine. I can probably do revanced on the android devices, only going to lose it on my old iPad. Might just look for an android tablet on Black Friday or something

            • +2

              @kinetic9: Sporify you can use google pay to be in turkey for a couple of bucks a month for a family. I also have tidal in Kenya as i prefer it over spotify but my partner likes spotify.

          • @CrusaderNZ: By the way, how are you finding Stremio + Real Debrid? I was thinking about it last night to try it out. We’ve never used Netflix anyway, just torrenting and Plex, but my Plex machine is getting old and can’t transcode 4K and I realised we don’t watch as much as we used to.

            Does it have a decent amount of children’s shows? They use the TV more than me now lol

            • @kinetic9: I don't watch kids shows but it has most things via torrent, so you'd probably be okay.

              I have used Real-Debrid for years but just on PC with jdownloader. I recently found out about Stremio and their recent release of it for LG TV's (2020 and up).

              I was impressed with how well it worked in my OLED but LG's WebOS doesn't support Dolby Vision via mkv files, so last week I got one of those new Google TV Streamer boxes and paid $6 for an external video player called Vimu that can handle everything including the sound formats my TV and Soundbar don't support (DTS and True-HD).

              Now I am really happy with it. Few quirks here and there but I am able to stream 80GB Blu-ray remixes without issue, which is pretty bloody good

              Real-Debrid makes that possible, their servers are fast. Even when playing something that is old or obscure with a few seeders it just pulls it across to their servers and then streams it to you at full speed. Sometimes you might need to wait a little bit for that process but usually it is really fast

              • +1

                @CrusaderNZ: Funny you mention the Google TV Streamer, as I literally picked one up yesterday to replace an aging Apple TV HD from almost 10 years ago. Got sick of not being able to install what I want with Apple devices even though I know the ATV 4k has much more grunt. Interesting that Vimu works with True-HD as there's a current bug where True-HD doesn't work with the streamer, there seems to be a few people posting online about it. I found the same that anything with True-HD through Plex would just freeze, even though my soundbar supports it.

                A few hours before you replied I said screw it and started setting up Stremio and buying a Real-Debrid account, been playing around with setting it up all afternoon :)

                • +1

                  @kinetic9: I wasn't going to buy it because I read the same thing about True-HD, but others were saying they had no issues. I ran into that issue last week watching Blade Runner 2049 but got it to work after fiddling around with the sound settings in Vimu and I watched Batman (2022) last night with it on. I got a bug where it just freezes after 20 mins into remuxes and then I have to reload the video to get it to work again (Doesn't happen with TV so it is HD audio codecs that my Atmos soundbar doesn't natively support causing I think). I changed the buffer in Vimu to 500MB and it seems to mostly have taken care of it, despite the buffer showing as being at 100% before when it was freezing.

                  • @CrusaderNZ: That's interesting! I think I have some leftover Play credit, I might pick up Vimu and have a play with it.

                • @kinetic9: No Chromecast/Google TV devices can passthru lossless audio codec (Dolby TruHD, DTS-HD MA, etc), not even the new one they recently released (Google TV Streamer). The best option is Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max, which can passthru any audio format you throw at it. I got one a few months ago at half price to replace my existing CCwGTV.

                  • @patwobbly: Unfortunately I already have it and I can't be bothered doing a return. To be honest it's fine for us, we just use a soundbar and aren't discerning enough to tell the difference. They may fix the True-HD thing in an update seeing as it's new, but we're happy with it for now considering it replaced a 9 year old non 4k Apple TV.

                    • @kinetic9: It's the chipset that they use doesn't support passthru of these codecs, not a software limitation (at least for CCwGTV). The new Google TV Streamer uses MT8696 which is used in the PREVIOUS generation (2021) Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max. Such disappointment. I care because I just bought a Samsung HW-Q990D which supports all of the lossless audio codec and I want to get my money's worth :D

                      • @patwobbly: Yeah that's a good plan. I think my soundbar supports True-HD and DD+, I think it's the Q900A? It's a few years old now. but I'm not too worried if it's just software decoding vs passthrough. I don't have rear speakers and I don't find it matters much with a sound bar vs. a proper AV receiver setup. We usually have to turn the volume down anyway when we're watching while the kids are asleep :)

                        • @kinetic9: Buy a set of rears for your soundbar, the upgrade they offer is transformative. I would've never even considered owning a soundbar after hearing them at friends places and never being impressed by their soundstages, but none of their setups had rear speakers, then one day I saw a Q600A with 9100S rears on Trade Me for $250 which I grabbed partly because I was curious to see what it sounded like but mainly to flick on for a quick buck, and I was so impressed by the sound it delivered I ended up keeping it and putting my "cheap" Denon Atmos amp & Wharfedale speakers into storage. Then a few months later saw a Q950A with RA95BB rears on Trade Me with a $300 buy now (which I couldn't hit fast enough) and the sound from this thing is on another level, after owning it for a week I had to admit to myself that I was never going to go back to my amp & speakers so ended up flicking them on instead, and sold the Q600A for $500 meaning that the Q950A only ended up costing me $50.

                          I was insanely lucky with the deals I got, you'll probably end up paying around $150 - $200 just for a pair of 2nd hand Atmos rears, ($350 at PB Tech https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SPKSAM79500/Samsung-SWA-950…) but if you care about your sound the upgrade is definitely worth every penny.

                          • @Flippant: I have been eyeing 9500s for quite a while and can't get it cheaper. Need one for my q800c. $350 still feels expensive.

                            • @ace310: It's so hard to describe just how big of an upgrade they are, but let me put it this way, if I didn't know what kind of upgrade they offered I'd be hesitant about the price as well, but I do know what a difference they make, and if my speakers blew up tomorrow I wouldn't think twice about immediately ordering a new pair at full price to replace them.

                              • +1

                                @Flippant: Damn, you sound like I am definitely losing something special. How will I explain this to my wife. I will hear lots more from her then from those speakers, haha. Probably, now I need to find a way to sneak them in somehow lol.

                          • +1

                            @Flippant: Thanks, I'll have to keep an eye out for a second hand pair in future. Have to wait for the kids to grow up so we have more time to actually watch anything. I used to care more about getting high quality surround sound, but now as long as we can hear it it's all good lol. Maybe once the kids are older and stop wrecking things I'll get a better TV and sound setup.

  • +1

    There are a few Turkish virtual debit card providers. One of them (Ininal) allow foreigners to apply with just the passport and an international phone number. I read on reddit that not all countries can receive text validations but NZ is one of them. There are people on reddit buying One NZ eSIMs for this purpose and One NZ has been out of prepay eSIM for a while 🤣

    Anyway I've applied for an Ininal account and will see how it goes.

    • There are a few Turkish virtual debit card providers. One of them (Ininal) allow foreigners to apply with just the passport and an international phone number. I read on reddit that not all countries can receive text validations but NZ is one of them. There are people on reddit buying One NZ eSIMs for this purpose and One NZ has been out of prepay eSIM for a while 🤣

      Anyway I've applied for an Ininal account and will see how it goes.

      You gave a copy of your passport to some outfit in Turkey?

      Will be interested to hear how it goes…

      • They have existed since 2012 and is regulated by the central bank of Turkey. So I don't see your point here? Personally I'd trust them more than gift card sellers.

        • +2

          They have existed since 2012 and is regulated by the central bank of Turkey.

          Compelling.

          So I don't see your point here?

          Okay.

          Personally I'd trust them more than gift card sellers.

          Yeah - I wouldn't be giving a copy of my passport to 'gift card sellers' either, but you do you :-)

          • +1

            @Alan6984: I was hesitant giving my passport to Wise or Revolut… i certainly would not give it to a Turkish debit card provider. Not worth it to save a few bucks.

            • @L3tstaxth1s:

              I was hesitant giving my passport to Wise or Revolut… i certainly would not give it to a Turkish debit card provider. Not worth it to save a few bucks.

              Me too - I let Wise have a copy of my Driver's License, but no way I would give anyone except, perhaps, an NZ Registered Bank (maybe, just maybe, an Aus or UK one… perhaps) a copy of my passport.

              I also keep a careful record of everyone I ever give sight of my driver's license (including noting if it was just a visual check, if they (could have or definitely) made a copy, and any 'scans' I have had to upload. I won't necessarily be able to know who has leaked it when (not if!) it happens, but at least I'll have a starting list.

              I then periodically contact anyone on the list where they don't need it anymore, and ask them to confirm that they have deleted it from their records, including from any potential backups. No way I can be sure that they have, but I figure no harm in requesting it, and if they confirm they have, and it turns out they didn't, I might have more leverage to squeeze them down the track.

    • I've just tried applying for one…their recaptcha is having issues. Probably some ssl certificate expired or something

    • How did you get on with this, I did some googling and quite a few posts say they got their Ininal cards (after some effort) but they are blocked from the various services and give the same response as using a foreign card..

      • I am using this now. Seems to be working for YouTube and Amazon so far. Didn't try Netflix as I am using Nigeria for that. Ininal have cashback deals with YouTube, Amazon and Netflix so it should work for all of them. In fact I actually got 50% back on my Amazon Prime payment.

    • +1

      Wouldn't waste you time setting it up in another country, they are doing this to all of them. Mine is in Argentina.

    • -1

      @tbdnz Are you for real?

  • So got the dreaded email, my Argentina holiday has come to an end.

    Seems the routes are pretty narrow now, anyone got any good suggestions? Seen so many different attempts but nothing springs out as that good.

    A weird one I got recommended was buying a membership on Alibaba - the reviews seem to be ok, no idea how they would make it work I presume add me to group plan, sort of cheap - anyone try this?

    https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?spm=a2700.product_home_…

    • My post above….gamsgo.com

      You're buying in to a New Zealand based YouTube family plan, they manage, with random people. Paid $40.14 for 6 months, so $6.69 per month. No need for a VPN for sign up or ongoing payments. Has been flawless.

      • Thanks. I guess thats a last resort and not a bad one by the looks. But was looking for a family plan ideally. Guess the kid's can just watch the ads 😀

  • +1

    Regional pricing variations for digital products is a bit of a scam really.

  • +2

    My payment went through today, after putting the back up payment method through Wise card.

    Edit: using YouTube premium Turkey

    • +1

      Sweet I'll give that a go

      • I wonder if adding Turkish credit to my Google Play account would resolve this too.

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