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  Rand0m on 02/10/2020 - 06:59

  Why would you need a VPN for Google TV? It's for sale in Australia. Isn't it essentially Android TV?

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    felixfurtak on 02/10/2020 - 07:17

    I guess I mean the new Chromecast will be of limited usefulness in NZ, but yeah, it seems like it's launching in Australia on October 15th so possibly coming to NZ soon too.

    Obviously if you wish to use it to watch US Australian content you'll need a VPN.

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  Fastdifference on 02/10/2020 - 07:59

  +3

  Don't buy this! Google tv releasing soon

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    TheDealMan on 02/10/2020 - 08:27

    Yeah +1. Chromecast with Google TV got officially announced yesterday morning and is available to buy right now in the US. It's also available to preorder in Aus for $99 so I suspect we will see it here soon for $109 or thereabouts.

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    sal on 02/10/2020 - 09:05

    A lot of people like to buy last gen. at discount when new products are announced/shipped.

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      Zyo on 02/10/2020 - 10:31

      Not much of a discount when the new Chromecast with Google TV has an added remote for only half the price (50usd) even after tax and shipping it's not going to be a lot more expensive than 88nzd I'd say.

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  Jaxson on 02/10/2020 - 11:48

  Whilst we're on this, there is now a GoPro Hero 9 out, so look out for clearance of Hero 8 and 7s.
  As above comments, might be ok if you're willing to take the older variant (Hero 8 is really good) but watch out for clearance specials only a little bit cheaper than buying latest version brand new.

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  pdevonporf on 02/10/2020 - 13:12

  I have 3 4K TVs one has Google ultra and the other two have standard Google Chromecast.Even though two are android TVs. The chromecasts are far more efficient and user-friendly with a smart phone and with a android phone better than a iPhone.The bitrate on Netflix is that low for 4K at about 1/10 of the required speed for true 4K and about quarter for 1080 p there is no real advantage to having a Google Ultra and the only reason I can see for buying one now after comparing them is that Google ultra has a wired connection.

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    Jaxson on 02/10/2020 - 13:15

    Wired sounds awesome. I have a base model Sony Android TV and the ethernet port is only 100mbps.

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      pdevonporf on 02/10/2020 - 14:55

      Netflix can max out at seven gigs per hour but I've never seen it on my connection but even so it's still way behind a true 4K movie which is probably around 70 gigs per hour. A good connection would probably give you around 25 Mb per second.

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      Zyo on 03/10/2020 - 07:36

      I don't think any streaming service is going to saturate a100mbits connection at 4k.
      Only uhd blu-ray rips will have more than that much bandwidth requirements.

      In saying that. Why is Sony still sticking with fast ethernet is beyond me.

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        pdevonporf on 03/10/2020 - 09:23

        The point I was making was that 1080p and 4K programs on Netflix have the same data speed so the quality of both formats is the same as all 4K TVs upscale to 4k anyway.It's the information received not the format that gives you the quality of the picture.

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          Zyo on 03/10/2020 - 10:08

          @pdevonporf: Not sure what you are talking about but according to Netflix the recommended bandwidth requirement is 25mbits for ultra hd while normal standard hd (1080p) caps at 5mbps. They might have temporarily throlled the speed in some areas but that's the exception.

          If you open the debug menu I think you can see the bitrate yourself.

          https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

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            pdevonporf on 03/10/2020 - 20:31

            @Zyo: Doesn't really matter what Netflix says or recommends the bandwidth for high definition and ultrahigh definition is way below 4K or 1080p quality and if 1080p was running at the same Bandwidth (25mbits) as ultrahigh definition there will be no difference in the quality of the pictures and in fact 1080p would be better because there is little or no compression so would retain better colour and contrast.These recommended bandwidths are a minimum for a reasonably good quality picture.I have seen the bit rate and have noticed it may start off high but as the movie progresses so does the bit rate drop.Netflix is obviously running a point of difference here to score another $10 off me a month.

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              Zyo on 03/10/2020 - 22:03

              @pdevonporf: It's well documented that In UHD Netflix uses 7GiB data per hour vs 3GiB of 1080p, so they clearly run at different bit rate. Also video compression isn't linear so a 4k stream at 20mbps doesn't mean it will look like crap compare to a 1080p one at 10mbps.

              Although it really depends on your setup whether it can do proper hdr/dolby vision or not.

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                pdevonporf on 03/10/2020 - 23:34

                @Zyo: I think you are completely missed the point I'm making, a Blu-ray players bit rate is about 40 Mbps and that is a compressed format not raw.People buy expensive 4K televisions thinking they are getting 4K content in actual fact it's just ok.The format that Netflix sends to your television is not magically decompressed it is played in that format which is heavily compressed.I have HDR on my television and yes the blacks, contrast are better on those movies but I also have 100+ GB 4K files with HDR and there's really no comparison.A good Blu-ray player playing Avatar which is a true 1080p movie is far superior than any 4K content on Netflix.I have a 4K projector with a three meter screen so any difference in quality is very noticeable.The original point was that 4K chromecast ultra it's just okay, and to get 4K you need to pay a higher subscription And using the standard chrome cast on the high definition channels doesn't make a lot of difference between the two Chromecasts. And a big benefit to some people would be the fact that you could hardwire the connection on the chromecast ultra.